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Arbitrage Conspiracy Features - what the 12 weeks of training offers
Do you judge a product by it’s features?
Or do you base your feelings about a product on other factors like inflated hype, overblown highly saturated promotion or guru endorsements? I suggest you LOOK at the features of Arbitrage Conspiracy - I think a lot of folks are getting rubbed the wrong way by the huge promotion for it and the fact that almost all of the big time gurus seem to be endorsing it (or dissing it), even though they haven’t seen the actual 12 week training product yet.
I suggest you look past the hype and venting of feelings and drill down to what you get when you buy the product. I’ve listed the features below - maybe you haven’t really looked at them… go ahead - it’s ok to look! :’>
Arbitrage Conspiracy - OK, I bought it and am THRILLED I DID!
Should you buy it???
If you read the FEATURES and find it appealing then YES - you should buy it!
But don’t buy it because I said I did, or because someone familiar endorsed it or because of the massive hype… that’s just noise! To make an informed decison you must look at what the product is offering (see features below) and base your decison on whether you think it is a good investment for YOU!
YOU need to decide for yourself! No one else can do that for you!
ME - count me in! I like what I saw (the product features, not the hype). See the features below >>>
But if you ask me, I’d say based on what I saw the 12 weeks of training from Arbitrage Conspiracy looks great for ME!!! >>> Scroll down for the LONG LIST of features - the 12 weeks of training are described in detail below >>>
SO - I am not ENDORSING it - it wouldn’t be fair to - because the training has not started yet! Personally, I must own a product and have USED IT in order to ENDORSE IT. I don’t endorse anything based on promises. But I can say I am impressed by what Arbitrage Conspiracy says they will be including in the 12 weeks of training. Sounds great to me! BUT no endorsement here!
I’m simply telling you I am happy I got in on this limited opportunity to get trained by one of the most sucessful underground guys out there pulling in huge money behind the scenes! I’m also confident that this will be a great investment for ME and that I think I will get a lot of value from the training!
I’m happy and I made a SMART EDUCATED DECISION and can’t wait for the 12 weeks of Arbitrage Conspiracy training to start (it starts in January 2009)!
Read on because I’ll be showing you exactly what the TRAINING will include over the 12 weeks of the course, which starts next year.
First, let’s briefly deal with all the sour nagging Nellies out there bashing this product without even considering what it really offers. Some people are ragging on it and have no clue what the actual product offers! They’re basing their RANTS on emotion and feelings and not facts.
If you take your career and future seriuosly you need to seperate feelings from facts. It’s ok to see who is saying what - but if you really want to further your career you need to make educated decisions based on facts as they apply to you - not based on some guru’s endorsement or whining or based on hate messages from some mean spirited person slamming it in a forum or blog.
That kind of stuff is just NOISE! And personally it’s very similar to the negative relative or friends who seem to enjoy bringing us down and bursting our balloons! They don’t want anyone to succeed! So they try to disuade others from going for their dreams.
Hey, some of them might even mean well, but they secretly don’t want us to succeed!
If you really want success - don’t let other people derail you from achieving it. Do what feels right for you - not for other people. Do it because it makes sense for you!
That applies to your career choices, goals and dreams and it applies to the tools and training you think will get you closer to your goals.
The 12 weeks of training they’ve outlined on the Arbitrage Conspiracy page LOOKS GREAT TO ME!!! (see below)
OK, I know there are people out there that are serious HATERS and are bashing the Arbitrage Conspiracy 12 Week Training Course! Some bitter folks are getting pretty emotional about it and spewing some vicious hate talk on forums and blogs… but trust me on this - that’s just all noise! Don’t base your decison on noise - look at facts!
The ones complaining the loudest are mostly sour about the high price or basing their opinions of what the product offers based on that free seminar some gurus attended. The seminar is NOT what you get in the 12 weeks of training! These angry folks are NOT EVEN considering what the 12 weeks of training offers - they’re slamming the hype - they are mad about the glowing endorsements by the hordes of gurus - they are sad about the high cost of the 12 week training - they are jealous of the unbelieveable level of promotion - everyone is promoting it.
They are basing their judgements on feelings and not the features.
Sorry - but that’s irresponsible if you ask me! I’m not saying anyone is bad or wrong for NOT seeing value in the product - but I am saying anyone that slams it based on anything but details of what the course promises to offer is whining about something other than the 12 week training course itself.
I get it! Arbitrage Conspiracy is expensive and Brad Fallon did it again! Another huge success for him with every guru promoting it and many endorsing it! BUT HEY - that is no reason NOT to look at the great stuff this 12 week course teaches! The training itinerary is awesome!
I know 2 thousand bucks is a lot of money for a training course! I get it! But do you honestly believe this valuable info should be released on a mass scale??? The value would diminish if everybdy had this info. Secrets have value. And in this case the fact that people are willing to paythat large sum indicates the course and nfo they promise to teach has value.
I’m all for giving away good stuff for free or selling it at affordable prices, but we’re not talking about an ebook here. It’s a 12 week training course that teaches complicated stuff NO ONE has ever taight before! You gotta look for yourself (see below)!
A lot of people hate the hype and don’t believe it is possible to make that much money - they also hate the media barrage and they HATE that Arbitrage Conspiracy trainer Aymen is giving PROOF he is making $50,000 to $100,000. per DAY and that he is willing to show us HOW in this 12 week course.
I think a lot of people are NOT looking at what the product is offering and they are NOT basing their JUDGEMENT or FEELINGS on the product and what it offers.
That is why I ask you to read what is being advertised as the training for the 12 week course.
Read that please - then - please feel free to give your opinion on what they are offering.
You’re also welcome to chime in on other things as well - but what I hope you do is LOOK at the training itinerary because THAT’S what I’m interested in most - not all teh other noise.
Here are the features for the 12 weeks of Arbitrage Conspiracy training:
Week #1 – Mining Golden Nuggets & Quickstart 101
We introduce you to the Arbitrage Blueprint . This gives you an “open walkthrough” of the strategies you’ll use to repeatedly create or “Crank” new campaigns that will give you affiliate commissions day after day.
We will teach you how to “Mine” offers that are more likely to be the golden nuggets rather than the losers.
You’ll quickly understand the power of the formula and why it’ll lead to monstrous commission checks piling up on your doorstep week after week for months or even years to come.
Plus we will show you the essential research methods and secret tools we use to identify them.
We will get into how to smartly deal with affiliate managers to increase profit margins
We will show you how to do market research the right way and the power of reverse engineering.
Week #2 – The Fast Tracker Module
The second week explains the formula in more detail and reveals exactly where to start and the fastest and most effective way to take action by implementing the real down and dirty “nuts and bolts” of the system.
You’ll discover how the tutorials are broken down into precise sequences to fast-track your success.
We will show you 7 simple “engagement rules” for offer selection that will skyrocket your chances of finding the golden offer. (This could make a difference of finding a $50/day campaign vs. $5000/day campaign)
We’ll also cover the important of knowing your:
Payouts (what is good / bad and proper negotiation techniques.
Types of traffic (what to watch out for)
Types of offers (lower payouts vs. higher payouts) and where to begin
Week 3 – Traffic & Keyword Intelligence Module
In week 3 we reveal the secrets to combine your golden nuggets with an abundance of quality traffic that will turn into cash for you!
These secrets will give you an instant edge over other affiliates in any niche and we’ll show you how to take full advantage and crush the competition in whatever traffic or keywords that they are competing against you.
Miss this and you’ll unwittingly doom yourself to failure before you’ve even started!
We will hand over to you “8 Keyword Pyramid Strategies” that less than 1% of elite marketers know of to exploit. We’ll also reveal MANY free tools you can use to easily generate hundreds and thousands of targeted keywords that converts.
Without QUALITY traffic, no one can cash in on the golden offers.
Master these simple yet powerful traffic and keyword intelligence strategiesand you’re on your way to cashing in.
We’ll show you secrets only the top 5% know…
To cap it off, you’ll receive a “no BS” exposé of how to snap up targeted RARE keywords that are already receiving quality traffic allowing you a nice headstart!
Week #4 – Campaign Cranking Module
This is where you get lots of FUN!
We cover mass cranking techniques allowing you to get hundreds of campaigns going!
We will get into random offer selection that will give you results! After all, we’re here to MAKE MONEY, not just to crank. We need to crank, ramp and bank! (See below).
If you do this cranking method the wrong way, you will find yourself having sleepless nights without much results.
But simply follow the easy steps laid out in this model and you’re set to start finding offer after offer that will make you money!
Being privy to these classified methods will mean the difference of hundreds or even thousands of dollars for you.
Week #5 – Website and Landing Page Strategies
Whether you want to use a website or not to promote your offers, we’ll uncover both ways of marketing and monetizing either methods just the way you like it.
Website or No Website, doesn’t matter.
You will also get details on basic and advanced landing page optimization strategies to make sure your landing page converts at its best potential.
Employing these strategies can help increase your conversion rates up to 30-50%! Which means more profits for you to take home.
We’ll show you how to avoid the one mistake that swats newbie’s like house fliesand spill the beans on a little known method regarding landing pages that allows you to do what most think can’t be done!
Week #6 – Pro League Testing Module
In week 6 you’ll discover the 9 essential elements that you can test to double or triple your profits!
We’ll also give you the best tools available for testing your campaigns, automating some of these startegies so you have more time to work on your campaigns to increase your profits, or simply spend some quality time with your family.
Remember, we want to do this right and give ourselves a good affiliate lifestyle, meaning more free time for us to do what we want to do.
No more working 40-50 hour weeks!
And high end Google Analytics inner workings that you don’t want to miss!
Week #7 – Tracking On The Fly Module
Week 7 outlines the next stage of the formula which discloses a several simple tricks that’ll allow you to create top secret tracking that will make all the difference!
Discover how to cloak all of your valuable and profitable keywords at a click of a few buttons instead of doing the manual labor.
We will also dive into top secret tracking tools that are SUPER powerful and we’ll
reveal 3 major secrets that will increase conversions overnight…
And a few more surprises…
Week #8 - Conversion Secrets
It’s all about conversion!
We’ll unmask a potent strategy we use to decrease your “cost per conversion” to reduce your spending and increase your earnings.
We’ll also show you an ‘”idiot proof” strategy to reduce bids and escalate conversions simultaneously, as well as a free tool that ALWAYS proves to be the “missing piece of the puzzle” for struggling affiliates.
Week #9 – Campaign Ramping Blueprint
You do not want to miss this week as we show you step by step how you can ramp up your profitable campaigns from $100/day into $1,000/day, and then even $10,000/day if you do this right.
We will reveal to you the 7 easy steps for you to follow so that you make sure you’re not missing out on any chances from ramping up on any of your profitable camaigns.
If you want to play in the pro league, you must learn to apply the WHOLE formula. Not just cranking, not just ramping…it’s the whole system.
We will also give you a simlple checklist to make sure you’re not missing out on this gold opportunity to ramp up your campaigns.
Week #10 – Outsourcing & Building a Allstar Team
Week 10 is where the money really gets crazy as we talk about building you own team!
Once you have made profits, you want to reinvest your money in increasing MORE profits.
And one of the ways to do that is building the RIGHT team that will bring you even MORE profits.
If you’ve ever wondered what the difference is between an affiliate who generates a few hundred dollars a day and one who rakes in thousands, then this is it!
Take it to the next level!
Week #11 – Quality Score & Domination Strategy
In week 11 you’ll get the keys to making the search engines to LOVE you by taking full advantage of several instant tactics that’ll fire you to the next level.
We have learned stuff simply NO one else knows, and this is when we share it with you.
Also high level strategy here is key – once you are making BIG money you need to know how to manage the business…
Also, you will learn which tools to use to AUTOMATE all of these processes.
We will show you exactly what to do.
Week #12 – Banking & Beyond!
In the final week we explain what can go wrong and how to fix it fast to maintain your traffic and profits.
We’ll talk about cash flow management.
Don’t overlook this portion. This can make or BREAK your business if you don’t do it right.
You’ll also learn more about creating the best partnerships, business structures, click fraud…
And all the essentials to keep you successful business moving forward!
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Those are the features that they are promising to deliver in the 12 weeks of training. Does it look appealing to you? Do you think it’s a good investment if that’s what you’ll belearning???
I do!
Are they offering garbage? Is it impossible to teach? Is it something you are interested in learning? Does it look like rehased stuff from 37 dollar ebooks???
I really want to know what you think!!!
Who cares about the HYPE - or the ENDORSEMENTS - or the NAGGING NELLIES hating on it!
Forget the noise and judge for yourself whether Arbitrage Conspiracy looks like it can deliver what it is promising!
If you think it is worth it - go check out the full sales page! It’s closing soon! If not - that’s ok too!
http://www.articleunderground.com/arbitrageconspiracy
Want more???
You’ll find a list of links to more info about Arbitrage Conspiracy here.
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You’re right - until now I never even looked at what the training offered. I just saw all those blow hard fake endorsements and skipped right down to the price - which I cannot afford by the way… after seeing what they teach I wish I could get it. I hope you’ll be sharing what you learn
Comment by RJ — December 15, 2008 @ 1:51 pm
The description sounds good, but have seen a lot of other things that offered huge lists of benefits and fell very short. I think that it will take 3 months before you know if what they offer is fully realizable, the cost is a bit high for that concept. I suspect that much of it could be done in a more automated training format for a whole lot less.
I think they are probably doing it this way to get people to pay them to put the training together so they can then sell it in mass for a much cheaper price.
Personally, I don’t like paying people to put their training together, so I will wait and see if a canned version comes out at a reasonable cost.
Comment by Ed — December 15, 2008 @ 2:29 pm
The rich get richer and the rest of us don’t.
It’s a shame.
Comment by Pat — December 15, 2008 @ 2:37 pm
What is funny is MOST of the people giving negative feedback were NOT in Las Vegas at the live event and don’t really understand the content of the training program or the business model.
I was personally in Las Vegas and attended the full event with Brad Fallon, Aymen, Emanuel, Anthony, and a room FULL of other top Internet Marketers.
Being an SEO & PPC expert already, I already knew a lot of the material covered in Aymen’s presentation due to traffic strategies BUT what I did learn a lot about was how to monetize that traffic to the scale that these guys are doing.
I have been promoting CPA offers for years and have made tens of thousands of dollars but after picking up a few of the strategies covered at the event I then figured out how to really scale my campaigns in a much bigger way.
If this training was just a PPC training it would be worth the $2k if people really learned how to generate instant traffic for any niche BUT it NOT just a PPC training, it is MUCH more then that…
You will become an expert at PPC marketing and you will discover the right way to do keyword research and you will learn how to build a list of targeted subscribers and just that would be worth the $2k.
You also get access to Aymen’s CPA networks where you will find offers to promote and you also get to see exactly how they crank out their campaigns and test them before they take them to the next level.
There are many other topics that you MUST understand to be successful in this business model you will also get access to that nobody is talking about.
For example:
How to find what network pays the most commissions for an offer (very important).
Knowing when to stop promoting an offer because they all expire after a certain number of days (if you don’t know how to do this you will be spending money for traffic and not getting paid commissions).
How to get approved by a CPA network if you are a newbie. Most applications get declined and you have to know what to say and what to do to get approved.
You have to understand that you will be paying money for traffic and you won’t get paid from the CPA network until you reach certain limits. You want to find out how reach your limits and paid ever few weeks so you are not out the money you are spending on traffic too long.
There is a TON more that people don’t know and understand that Aymen is going to be teaching that most people just don’t get but still want to talk negative.
This is a great opportunity for those with an open mind and should not even be considered by anyone else.
Anyway… for those with an open mind that WILL actually follow what is taught should be able to make their investment in the course back plus a minimum of a few hundred bucks each week if not much more.
For those that have tried CPA marketing in the past and not done well and are talking like this is a scam are just bitter that it did not work out for them.
I do agree that if you don’t know your metrics you can lose more money then you make but if you do know your numbers and follow the right steps you should be able to make this work.
~Brett
http://www.FreeTrafficBigProfits.com
Comment by Brett T. Smith — December 15, 2008 @ 2:57 pm
I was actually at this Vegas event where the two guys that will be doing the 12 week training, and I can say this as an attendee, I must add that I am an affiliate selling the training and I am not prejudiced by that fact, I would say the same thing whether or not I was an affiliate. I went into this Vegas Workshop as someone that didn’t have a lot of CPA Training or knowledge but I was absolutely blown away by the knowledge of these two guys and anybody taking the 12 week training will walk away with a huge chunk of this knowledge and will be able to add a very large stream of income from it. People have been doing it for years and years and that is to put something down that they haven’t even seen yet or put to the test. My suggestion would be to put it to the test and see for yourself, as for myself I have already put to use what I learned from these guys in Vegas and I have profited and continue to increase that profit everyday. One more thing then I’ll go back to my cave and that is Brad Fallon has proven himself to be a class guy and part of a team that has helped thousands of people through Stompernet.
Comment by Greg Filer — December 15, 2008 @ 3:29 pm
Mike, you’re one of the “good guys” in the IM game, but you’re missing the elephant in the room regarding the AC rants.
You said:
“They’re basing their RANTS on emotion and feelings and not facts.”
Not so fast - here’s some FACTS to ponder. There were marketers at the VEGAS EVENT with irrefutable integrity and honesty such as Jerry West. They came right out and said that there was *NOTHING NEW* revealed there about marketing CPA. It was the “same old - same old” content!
But what did the marketers say that were promoting this? “Completely blown away” - “Never seen anything like this” - on and on. And they were paid extra commissions for video testimonials! In a nutshell, these whores lied their asses off about the product - even to their own lists. Why? That’s how you get $2,000 for content that’s available for less than $100. And that’s how you get future JVs with with B.F. - one of the biggest players in the IM game.
Newbies are being totally mislead about CPA. They are taking desperate people for $2,000 that literally have no chance at succeeding at the cut-throat CPA game. Even PPC wizards fail at this - and they are telling people that don’t even know what PPC is that they can get rich.
The course may be great, but the marketing is very misleading.
I’ve got just one question for Brett that will tell me all I need to know about his comments: “Are you an affiliate for it?”
Comment by Jerry — December 15, 2008 @ 3:54 pm
Hey Mike~ I hope this training works out for you the way you think it will, but it just smells like buttered-up BS to me. From my perspective, even the “controversy” surrounding it reeks of being more contrived than real. (And… the award for Best Supporting Actor in an Internet Marketing Product Launch goes to… heh… and meh, too, quite frankly.)
The part that REALLY doesn’t sit well with me: While folks are “protected” from losing the $2K they might choose to spend on this training via the offer’s guarantee, CPA arbitrage can be VERY risky. Even the “masterminds” and “experts” get burnt sometimes by it, and I suspect the Real Winner from this product launch may turn out to be Google, if you know what I mean. My “crystal ball” shows bad things happening to good people, which is obviously different from what you’re envisioning. Reasonable minds and all that jazz…
BTW, though, the definition of “endorse” is “to give approval of or support to, especially by public statement; to sanction.” I’d submit that you ARE, in fact, endorsing this product… in addition to profiting from the sale of it as an affiliate. At least you’re being honest about the basis for that endorsement — i.e., your IMAGINED outcome of APPLYING the IMAGINED contents of the actual course… if one has deep enough pockets to do so, of course — so ’sall good, I suppose.
Again, you have my good wishes!
Comment by Debi — December 15, 2008 @ 3:59 pm
There’s not much point in passing judgement on a product until it’s been delivered. Which begs the question Mike, why are you bringing up this discussion at this stage? Is it just another way of getting your affiliate link in front of us?
I apologise if I’m wrong but I’m always sceptical of any review that contains an affiliate link.
Comment by Steve O'Connor — December 15, 2008 @ 4:20 pm
I don’t know what this program is all about, but we really don’t need it do we? We have been buying products all along that said they were going to teach us the same thing that this “Guru” is saying this program is teaching.
I have gotten burned many times, but I just think all of this is just a bunk of bull to get your money. Now why in the world would we need this product when this information has been taught a hundred times over by the great Internet Marketing Gurus. Surely, this could only be repetition of the information that we have already learned! As I am sure that we all are already making 5 figure monthly income from the previous training we have. Now, why should we all very prosperous Internet Marketers need yet another training program. That leads to this, were we not trained by the other Gurus? If not, why should we believe that this is going to be any different?
Comment by Estelle — December 15, 2008 @ 4:29 pm
If you have the money and want to learn CPA taught by an expert, and you don’t care about the hype…
If you don’t already have spare cash lying around, then don’t feel like you have to buy this to get the success you desire in the new year.
There are many proven ways to make a good five figures a month without going the PPC route if that’s not your thing. And you don’t have to convince yourself you need to make five figures a day.
Anyone who’s been doing Im for a while knows that when you see all the gurus names on the same page it screams - Buyers Beware. Nonetheless, there will always be desperate people who will buy.
BTW, if that is your affiliate link you should remove it because you are in fact endorsing it whether you like it or not. It is human psychology to believe in a purchase just made.
Comment by Jason — December 15, 2008 @ 4:41 pm
I suspect that this is just another JV where the “Gurus” are just promoting a product to their list. They seem to have gotten a partnership — You promote my product and I will promote yours. If Mike needs this program, then why do we need him? What can he teach is he is in the learning stage and will be attending class with other neophytes, newbies. It looks like we are all in the same board — the learning stage. This is putting Mike in a pretty rough spot. He is selling a membership for $97 a month, yet he is in need of $2K course to teach him what to do. They why in the hell is anyone paying him?
Before it was buy a website from some woman a very good website. We all have good websites but are they making money? Does this site come optimized and ready to start raking in the dough or do it have to go through the same thing that every other site goes through — SEO, article writing, posting to the lens and social bookmarking sites, Youtube, etc. If you have to do these conventional methods of driving traffic to the website, then what would make this website (template) any different from any other one? Sounds like another “give me your money scheme” that Mike is promoting for one of his “Guru” friends.
I am losing respect for these “Internet Marketing Gurus”. Every one of them claim to make big bucks, but I doubt that very seriously, one marketer sends out email daily, almost begging. And, that is not the what prosperous marketers do. Everytime I get an email claiming to have made big, big buck in two weeks, I opt out of that mailing list. No one makes $50K in 2 weeks. Not even Bill Gates. It took years for him to build his empire. And I suspect it is going to take “years” for us to build one too. This “pie in the sky” and “get rich quick” is for birds. Money just is not made that way.
Comment by Estelle — December 15, 2008 @ 4:46 pm
Jerry - thanks for the comment - don’t take this the worng wayplease - you are talking about regurgitated comments from other people…. theor opinions and feelings… that’s not what I call facts… just the same as endorsements.
That is my point. You can’t consider EITHER a SLAM or an ENDORSEMENT as a FACT.
They’re opinions to be taken with a grain of salt.
What I say - what Jerry West says - what guru endorsements say… take that stuff with a grain of salt!
You said: “Not so fast - here’s some FACTS to ponder. There were marketers at the VEGAS EVENT with irrefutable integrity and honesty such as Jerry West. They came right out and said that there was *NOTHING NEW* revealed there about marketing CPA. It was the “same old - same old” content!”
I don’t care what ANY guru said… good or bad… That’s my point! Judge the PRODUCT and what they say they will give, not what other people are saying they feel or think.
I’m looking at the product and evaluating it based on what it says it will offer - not 3rd party advice.
The facts that should be considered are what the product offers to deliver - not whether Jerry liked the seminar or not… Jerry saw 40 minutes of the seminar and then went to take a nap. He left early.
Brett who was there too. He had different feelings.
Who is wrong here??? Brett or Jerry???
They are BOTH RIGHT - for themselves!
No one can fairly give an endorsement OR say it will or won’t work - the training has not started yet. No one knows!
You said: “Newbies are being totally mislead about CPA. They are taking desperate people for $2,000 that literally have no chance at succeeding at the cut-throat CPA game. Even PPC wizards fail at this - and they are telling people that don’t even know what PPC is that they can get rich.”
I don’t think anyone is being misled about CPA. CPA has a lot of potential. It makes a lot of people RICH. Aymen is rich.
But there is risk. So what - there is risk that someone driving in the other lane will crash in to you on the highway - so - do you stop driving bcause there is risk???
I did not hear anyone say it was GUARNATEED TO MAKE YOU RICH.
Once again you’re saying stuff that is not based on fact. Your interpertation is different than what I got…
YES - it is true that people who buy this intend to use it for financial gain. That’s why I am buying the program. Because the training looks like it will help me make a ton of money! The operative word is HELP ME - it does not do the work FOR ME.
Work is required.
You said: “Newbies are being totally mislead about CPA. They are taking desperate people for $2,000 that literally have no chance at succeeding at the cut-throat CPA game. Even PPC wizards fail at this - and they are telling people that don’t even know what PPC is that they can get rich.”
“literally have no chance at suceeding”
What does that mean??? No chance???
You see - that’s where I don’t agree with your reasoning.
You assume the conclusion will be BAD on behalf of the “desperate” people out there because YOU think they are unlikely to succeed.
I’d say that decision should be left up to the people to make for themselves. Newbies or not - people have brains and must take care of themselves - they know the risk before taking a training course.
People might fail - they might succeed. Just because it’s possible they might fail is no reason to NOT TRY.
I’m not saying this training will work for everybody. It might not work.
I don’t think anybody said Arbitrage Conspiracy would work for everybody.
Is that what you expect??? Everyone will succeed?
I wish that were possible but it’s not!
That is not necessarily the fault of the training. It might work for some people but not all. So what.
People go to Anthony Robbins seminars and still fail in life… Are you saying they should not go because they might fail??? He does charge a lot of money… and there are people who hate Tony…
I think you need to let people decide for themselves whether they should buy the training.
They’re buying INFORMATION - not GUARANTEED SUCCESS.
There is risk!
And they have do a FINAIAL GUANRANTEE by the way - they will give the money back if someone is unhappy and asks for it.
If the course sucks - ask for your money back! They said no questions they’ll refund it.
It seems to me some of you out there don’t want people to try and have a chance at success.
It’s nice to wish that EVERYONE who bought it would succeed - but no one can guarantee success - some people will LOSE because they don’t try. Is that the fault of the training???
We’re all grown ups here. We know it’s an investment and it’s possible we might win big time and it is possible we might not.
Once again Jerry - I am not saying you are bad - it’s your opinion to belive what you do and that’s ok. I just don’t agree with what almost all of what you said.
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 4:52 pm
Brett said: “What is funny is MOST of the people giving negative feedback were NOT in Las Vegas at the live event and don’t really understand the content of the training program or the business model.
I was personally in Las Vegas and attended the full event with Brad Fallon, Aymen, Emanuel, Anthony, and a room FULL of other top Internet Marketers.
Being an SEO & PPC expert already, I already knew a lot of the material covered in Aymen’s presentation due to traffic strategies BUT what I did learn a lot about was how to monetize that traffic to the scale that these guys are doing.”
That’s what I find exciting as well. That these guys scaled it up to thelevel they have. To me that is what is really key here. They’re doing it and willing to share HOW they do it. That’s valuable to me!
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 5:01 pm
Brett said: “Anyway… for those with an open mind that WILL actually follow what is taught should be able to make their investment in the course back plus a minimum of a few hundred bucks each week if not much more.
For those that have tried CPA marketing in the past and not done well and are talking like this is a scam are just bitter that it did not work out for them.
I do agree that if you don’t know your metrics you can lose more money then you make but if you do know your numbers and follow the right steps you should be able to make this work.”
Great points! Personally I feel there is so much opportunity out there that if we TRY - even if we try POORLY there is money to be made because we tried. And then if WE GET THINGS RIGHT - which is the key ingredient here - the money will come in BIG TIME - but it takes TRIAL AND ERROR and that’s why I value learning metods and techniques from someone such as Aymen who has already mastered and tested the heck out and has a working system.
I admit freely that I am NOT a PPC expert! I’m a free traffic expert - but hey - there is a whole world of opportunity IN ADDITION to free traffic - so instead of ME trying to figure it out on my own - my mind is open to learning it from someone who is already successful.
In that respect, I think this is a very low risk situation - for me - I feel - how can you go wrong with someone as smart as Aymen looking over my shoulder???
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 5:09 pm
Debi said “BTW, though, the definition of “endorse” is “to give approval of or support to, especially by public statement; to sanction.” I’d submit that you ARE, in fact, endorsing this product… in addition to profiting from the sale of it as an affiliate. At least you’re being honest about the basis for that endorsement — i.e., your IMAGINED outcome of APPLYING the IMAGINED contents of the actual course… if one has deep enough pockets to do so, of course — so ’sall good, I suppose.”
Hi Debi, you’re right in the sense I am giving approval by saying I’m buying it myself, but I am very clear to say that I decided to buy it because I did rsearch and think it will work for me.
It’s what I think is called an “implied endorsement” as opposed to a hard endorsement.
In this case I don’t have experience other than doing research and making personal decisions to buy it.
So in that respect - it’s different than saying something such as - this XYZ thing is great - you should buy it - I’m not saying that.
I’m saying I bought Arbitrage Conspiracy because I did research and I like what I see and I think it’s good for me! You might want to consider it too!
Splitting hairs I guess…
And - yes - if someone decides to buy it from my affiliate link I will get a commission. That’s true. That’s part of the reason I promoted it in emails to my list. But as you may be aware if you get my newsletter, I don’t promote toasters, or walmart or auto insurance or netflix - I promote only products I feel would be of value to people in internet marketing.
I guess that rubs some people th worng way - but, I do know that many people find value in my recommendations and appreciate I bring some products to their attention.
But - I never promote anything that I feel is crap.
I only suggest products that I feel are solid good products that offer value to the people who are ind enough to read my emails or visit my web sites.
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 5:23 pm
Steve O’Connor said: “There’s not much point in passing judgement on a product until it’s been delivered. Which begs the question Mike, why are you bringing up this discussion at this stage? Is it just another way of getting your affiliate link in front of us?
I apologise if I’m wrong but I’m always sceptical of any review that contains an affiliate link.”
No apologies needed. It’s probably the same reason you included your URL as a link here in the blog. There’s nothing wrong with that.
Now - I have not “reviewed” Arbitrage Conspiracy - I have not - I have not seen the product yet - I simply bought it myself and am suggesting that you take a look at it to see if it is right for you :’> It’s more of a “new thang” than a review. It’s also a discussion about it.
As for making money from advertising my affiliate link - that is the way the web works!
That’s what I teach people to do! To make money online!
Now, I realize some people used to think that it was wrong to make money from blogs… and that advertising itself is evil…
I hope you don’t mind that I make a living from promoting affiliate products and advertising and such… I try to give a lot of value on my blog and on my web sites and it doesn’t cost anything to look or join the conversation here…
Most of us online are making a living by building web sites and providing information that people read and hopefully find value in.
In my case it’s a blend of public service and commerce :’>
I like to provide value and think I do!
Even PBS has sponsors. No reason to be suspicious of them… or is there :’>
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 5:35 pm
Estelle said: “Now why in the world would we need this product when this information has been taught a hundred times over by the great Internet Marketing Gurus. Surely, this could only be repetition of the information that we have already learned!”
Ahhh… that’s where you are wrong my dear… the stuff Aymen is teaching is fresh and new. That’s why this is so exciting!
That said - I personally believe that Arbitrage Conspiracy is NOT for beginners!
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 5:41 pm
Fair enough.
BTW. I bought it as well. But then I buy everything, I’m an Internet Marketer’s dream.
Comment by Steve O'Connor — December 15, 2008 @ 5:46 pm
Jason said: “If you have the money and want to learn CPA taught by an expert, and you don’t care about the hype…
If you don’t already have spare cash lying around, then don’t feel like you have to buy this to get the success you desire in the new year.
There are many proven ways to make a good five figures a month without going the PPC route if that’s not your thing. And you don’t have to convince yourself you need to make five figures a day.
Anyone who’s been doing Im for a while knows that when you see all the gurus names on the same page it screams - Buyers Beware. Nonetheless, there will always be desperate people who will buy.”
Jason is absoluetly right in that you DON’T NEED TO BUY THE COURSE in order to succeed. In fact - if you got the PDF special report they released - it is filled with information that in itself is so powerful it can help you make a ton of money IF youapply the suggestions and theories they explain. That free PDF was that good! Now granted - it did not reveal DETAILS but it gave enough ideas that any sharp person that reads it should be able to come up with some new ways to pull in some cash! All from the free PDF they gave away.
And he’s also right you don’t need to go PPC to make a lot of money. In fact I have NEVER made money doing the PPC thing! I am a complete failure at it! That’s why I am excited to work with Aymen, who has had success. BUT that said - yes - you can make money in other ways.
If you’ve ever followed my videos or training - I often will say THERE ARE A MILLION AND ONE WAYS to make money on the web! And this is so true. There are virtually unlimited strategies and methods and ideas that can pull in big bucks.
ME - my big thing has always been as a web publisher - I never PAID for traffic because I build web sites that get FREE TRAFFIC! But hey - I don’t want to be a 1 trick pony and also my BIG THING has always been teaching to get MULTIPLE STREANS OF REVENUE coming in.
So for me - at this point in my life - I’d love to add a method of pulling in cash. By buying CHEAP ADVERTISNG and turning it into money. That’s what I intend to learn from Aymen and is th ereason I bought the 12 week training. Not because I am dumping the other metods. NO WAY _ I am building on my wealth - I am increasing my PORTFOLIO so to speak! The more varied strams of income the better!
Now - should YOU do the PPC thing??? That’s a personal decison you need to make for yourself but Jason is 100% right - yu don’t need to do it - you might be on the right path - so don’t get ditsracted by PPC if you got something good going on that you are building :’>
Yes, there will be desperate people who will buy. It’s that way with anything. The real shame is that some people will buy and won’t even TRY to make it work. That always happens too. Digital dust!
Good comments Jason! Thanks bro!
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 5:54 pm
Estelle said: “If Mike needs this program, then why do we need him? What can he teach is he is in the learning stage and will be attending class with other neophytes, newbies.”
You can never have too much knowledge! At least I can’t! I have an insatiable lust to learn new and exciting things in my quest to become the best that I can be!
The more I learn - the better I become as a person.
It makes me EVEN BETTER than I already am, and if I must say so myself - I’m pretty darn good already - just wait till you see me in 3 months when I graduate this course :’>
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 6:04 pm
But all the training we received was “fresh and new” according to the person who was selling the product. I doubt whether there is any “fresh and new” means of selling on the internet. That is a bunk of bull. Internet marketing is internet marketing. Why is Aymen attempting to market his training program the say way that other are marketing theirs, selling to their list. That is not new and it is not fresh. And, it has the smell of something bad - $400K in 5 months. Now, that is a pie in the sky. The programs talk about making huge amounts of money in a short time. That is a lot of baloney. What they fail to tell you is that they have been at this for 15 years and have spend thousands of dollars. What they don’t tell you is that it took years of learning to be where they are today. What they fail to tell you is that they are making a living but not a fortune. This entire scenario is full of bunk. Now Aymen will make a bunch of money if he finds fool who will give him $2K for this “Artibrage Conspiracy”. Did you ever notice how everything is a “Secret”. This entire internet marketing area is full of “What they don’t want you to know” “Secrets”, “Never before released”, etc. And, in reality, they are not releasing any “secret information”. If they had this secret information and was making $100K a month or more, why on earth would they tell anyone. Ever seen anyone with “too much money”. When they release information, it has already passed it usefulness. Google is hep to it. And, it doesn’t work as well any more and then they don’t tell you “all”.
Fresh and New — I’ll say not. There is nothing new under the sun.
Comment by Estelle — December 15, 2008 @ 6:08 pm
EStelle said: “But all the training we received was “fresh and new” according to the person who was selling the product. I doubt whether there is any “fresh and new” means of selling on the internet. That is a bunk of bull. Internet marketing is internet marketing. Why is Aymen attempting to market his training program the say way that other are marketing theirs, selling to their list. That is not new and it is not fresh. And, it has the smell of something bad - $400K in 5 months. Now, that is a pie in the sky. The programs talk about making huge amounts of money in a short time. That is a lot of baloney. What they fail to tell you is that they have been at this for 15 years and have spend thousands of dollars. What they don’t tell you is that it took years of learning to be where they are today. What they fail to tell you is that they are making a living but not a fortune. This entire scenario is full of bunk. Now Aymen will make a bunch of money if he finds fool who will give him $2K for this “Artibrage Conspiracy”. Did you ever notice how everything is a “Secret”. This entire internet marketing area is full of “What they don’t want you to know” “Secrets”, “Never before released”, etc. And, in reality, they are not releasing any “secret information”. If they had this secret information and was making $100K a month or more, why on earth would they tell anyone. Ever seen anyone with “too much money”. When they release information, it has already passed it usefulness. Google is hep to it. And, it doesn’t work as well any more and then they don’t tell you “all”.”
My advice to you Estelle is to SMILE more often.
Some people find that SMILING makes them feel good. :’>
Thanks for making me smile! I feel great!
I’d offer some advice to you Estelle, and try to help you, but I have a feeling you would not be interested in any advice I would give you.
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 6:25 pm
Mike,
One question. Why are you taking up some much of your time and web space defending this other man’s product? Why are you so interested? What’s the deal?
Comment by Estelle — December 15, 2008 @ 6:30 pm
Mike … oh please - get a grip…
You’re saying:
“I don’t care what ANY guru said… good or bad… That’s my point!”
Then you say:
“Judge the PRODUCT and what they say they will give.”
Which is it - ignore what ANY guru said or judge what they say?
So, in essence, what you are saying is ignore the opinions of people at the event who have contrary opinions to the people being paid for testimonials and affiliate sales - but don’t ignore what the sales letter and testimonials say - and just judge that and the product. And of course to judge the product, you have to fork over $2,000.
I guess all reviews or opinions on products are useless, unless they are in the sales letter and everyone should always buy to see for themselves. And I’ll bet you are being totally honest and objective with an $800.00 affiliate link in your opinion post. You can BS most people - but not everyone.
By the way, Jerry West’s business partners stayed for the whole show as well as others that gave feedback.
There are 2 opposite opinions that came out of the same event. That’s the FACT I’m talking about. Who is lying about the product? Is it Jerry West and others who passed on the profits from promoting it - or is it the people who are making $800.00+ per sale and extra for their video testimonials? Gee, do you think some truths are self evident?
And here’s another fact that seems to escape your reasoning; people want honest content & opinions “before” they fork over $2,000 for a product. You are talking while trying to profit from an affiliate link.
Comment by Jerry — December 15, 2008 @ 6:52 pm
Every new product has it’s critics as well as it’s raving fans. But I’m really surprised at the amount of negative dialog that has been generated as of late regarding a yet to be released product. The basic premise of Arbitrage Conspiracy is very sound and yet I have found a number of well-experienced individuals balking at the offering before they’ve had an opportunity to examine it or at least wait for the product reviews to get published after its release.
From my perspective - all that is unfolding seems fairly intentional. The secret meeting, the number of guru’s, the method by which information is being disseminated, and the higher than the $89/program ‘market price’. Brilliant!
While the concept of arbitrage is not something that’s new or novel, it appears that Aymen’s application of arbitrage has yielded success. $100,000 a day is unheard of by most - and yet, we doubt that number based on our own programs and goals without regard to what’s involved to get there. YES - THERE IS RISK. YES - it takes an investment of money beyond the cost of the program - there are no surprises here folks. It’s easy to jump to conclusions and dangerous when done so without facts.
When all is said and done, I recognize that this program is going to require dedication. You need to commit to learning what will be taught. You need to commit to execute the program strategies. And you need to commit to maintaining the program that you setup. If you have a problem with commitment or you are too diversified with other programs, you will not succeed.
Bottom line - keep an open mind. That’s when the seeds of opportunity will sprout and bear fruit!
Best,
– WEX
Comment by Gregory Wexler — December 15, 2008 @ 7:14 pm
Jerry said: “Mike … oh please - get a grip… You’re saying: “I don’t care what ANY guru said… good or bad… That’s my point!” Then you say: “Judge the PRODUCT and what they say they will give.” Which is it - ignore what ANY guru said or judge what they say?”
How much more clear can I be - JUDGE THE PRODUCT - the specs - features - not testimonials or hype or endorsements by people at the seminar.
Jerry - my man - you are getting too emotional about this… your anger is gettig in the way of sound judgement.
The seminar is NOT the product. They did not teach the 12 week COURSE at the free seminar in Vegas. So people there have NO IDEA whether the course will be good or not. That’s why you should NOT base a buying decison on whether they LOVED THE SEMINAR or HATED THE SEMINAR!
I’m not saing not to take what people say into consideration BUT you’re not buying their opinion - you’re buying a product - how about YOU decide for yourself INSTEAD of listening to JERRY WEST or ME or ANYONE… YOU DECIDE! Forget what other people think. Tell me what YOU THINK! Decide if it’s good for YOU.
Do you think it is possible that SOMEONE ELSE might be wrong about the product - and that if you base your buying decison on what THEY THINK - that u might miss out???
Jerry West said “don’t buy it”. So that’s all you care about??? What Jerry thinks??? I’m trying to EMPOWER you and asking you to THINK FOR YOURSELF and make your own decisons.
If you want to be a follower - that’s ok - but you owe it to yourself to pay more attention to what your own thoughts are.
Jerry also said: So, in essence, what you are saying is ignore the opinions of people at the event who have contrary opinions to the people being paid for testimonials and affiliate sales - but don’t ignore what the sales letter and testimonials say - and just judge that and the product. And of course to judge the product, you have to fork over $2,000.”
Man - your emotions are getting the best of you - NO - that’s NOT what I said - I say IGNORE THE TESTIMONIALS - LOOK AT FACTS and FEATURES!
Listen - that SALES LETTER for Arbitrage Conspiracy is a PIECE OF CRAP - it’s filled with wrothless JUNK. The testimonials (which are endorsements by the way) are DISTARCTING people from looking at the featires. YOU are going blind watching the videos and reading what gurus are saying. IGNORE THAT HYPE - look at the course outline for 12 weeks - that’s what I am saying.
As for that event - the free seminar that they held in Vegas - it doesn’t matter to me whether people liked the seminar or not. I did not buy the seminar - I bought a 12 week course that starts in January.
Jerry said: “By the way, Jerry West’s business partners stayed for the whole show as well as others that gave feedback.”
I know that. So what??? I don’t care about the seminar. Maybe if I was there I would - but I wasn’t. It was a free event intended to PUMP UP JV PARTNERS. It has nothing to do with the course they are selling.
Jerry West is basing his negative opinions on the product based on the 40 minutes of the smeinar he saw before he went to take a nap (maybe he was grumpy - that might be why he didn’t like it)
My whole point which you seem to have trouble with - is that all the NOISE of people saying it’s great or saying it’s crap - is NOT IMPORTANT TO ME!
I bought a 12 week course. Look at the 12 week itinerary.
Look what they’ll be teaching over the 12 weeks.
Stop dwelling on what people are saying and look at the product itself - not testimonials - not videos of people swooning over it - but the cold hard facts - the outline of the stuff they’ll be teaching for 12 weeks.
Have you looked at that Jerry???
Does it look good??? OR does it look bad? Tell me YOUR OPINION - not what other people think.
Or are you so blinded by following Jerry West or his “business partners” that you can’t focus on the features???
Jerry said: “There are 2 opposite opinions that came out of the same event. That’s the FACT I’m talking about. Who is lying about the product? Is it Jerry West and others who passed on the profits from promoting it - or is it the people who are making $800.00+ per sale and extra for their video testimonials? Gee, do you think some truths are self evident?”
OPINIONS are NOT FACTS. Since when did opinions become facts. Because Jerry thinks it’s BAD it’s a fact???
Sorry - but you’re too emotional about this. You’re confusing what OTHER PEOPLE are saying with what Arbitrage Conspiracy offers as a product.
My whole point is to judge Arbotrage Conspiracy based on what they are selling - not opinions which are NOT FACTS.
I never said anyone was LYING.
As for the video testimonials that Jerry West thinks people are getting paid for… is that all you got - stuff that Jerry West said??? You keep falling back on Jerry - Hey - I like Jerry West and respect him - he’s a great guy and a very smart one - but on this one I think he was wrong - why do you keep making this about what JERRY WEST SAID??? Tell me what YOU THINK not what other people think.
You keep regurgitating stuff that other people said. Those are not facts! They’re remarks and opinions.
Jerry also said: “And here’s another fact that seems to escape your reasoning; people want honest content & opinions “before” they fork over $2,000 for a product. You are talking while trying to profit from an affiliate link”
I don’t disagree that people want “honest content & opinions”. Now you’re trying to put words in my mouth.
Do you think anything that I have said is NOT HONEST???
I never said people don’t want honesty. I hope they do - that’s why I am saying GO LOOK AT THE FEATURES of the product and don’t listen to the testimonials - the endorsements or all the hype.
Look at what the product promises to deliver.
This is exactly WHY I am saying don’t pay attention to emotional people - whether PRO or CON.
The only way to make an informed buying decision is to look at the ingredients on the can :’>
If you buy the soup because they have a talking dog saying it tastes good - well - that’s not very smart. Look at the ingredients.
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 8:54 pm
Greg Filer said: “I was actually at this Vegas event where the two guys that will be doing the 12 week training, and I can say this as an attendee, I must add that I am an affiliate selling the training and I am not prejudiced by that fact, I would say the same thing whether or not I was an affiliate. I went into this Vegas Workshop as someone that didn’t have a lot of CPA Training or knowledge but I was absolutely blown away by the knowledge of these two guys and anybody taking the 12 week training will walk away with a huge chunk of this knowledge and will be able to add a very large stream of income from it. People have been doing it for years and years and that is to put something down that they haven’t even seen yet or put to the test. My suggestion would be to put it to the test and see for yourself, as for myself I have already put to use what I learned from these guys in Vegas and I have profited and continue to increase that profit everyday. One more thing then I’ll go back to my cave and that is Brad Fallon has proven himself to be a class guy and part of a team that has helped thousands of people through Stompernet.”
Hi Greg,
I agree that being an affiliate does not affect or influence what I say about a product UNLESS it is bad and in that case I try NOT to promote it and will usually SLAM IT BIG TIME! I’m sure the Vegas event was worth attending - I wasn’t there - I’m just hoping people will give it a chance based on what they are teaching in teh 12 week course and not assume all ws revealed at that seminar. I’m glad you got some value from it. I got a LOT of value from the free PDF and their video. Granted I was already getting into CPA for a while now - mainly doing free traffic and I am amazed how SOME offers CONVERT VERY HIGH - even with few impressions! That’s what is so promising about CPA! If you have the right offer and it clicks - it doesn’t take a lot of impressions to get money rolling in! That said - SOME CPA OFFERS never seem to convert into actions. They’re duds. I guess that’s the thing - 7 out of 10 might fail or break even, but those OTHER 3 can turn out to be HUGELY PROFITABLE! So - in order to do CPA right - you need to TEST TEST TEST before blowing too much money on the offers. Thanks for sharing with us!
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 10:02 pm
WEX said: “Every new product has it’s critics as well as it’s raving fans. But I’m really surprised at the amount of negative dialog that has been generated as of late regarding a yet to be released product. The basic premise of Arbitrage Conspiracy is very sound and yet I have found a number of well-experienced individuals balking at the offering before they’ve had an opportunity to examine it or at least wait for the product reviews to get published after its release.”
I know! That’s my point! Many of the critics are BLINDED by opinions and do not want to see what it really offers! I’m trying to get people to look at what the course is saying it will deliver in the 12 weeks. They promise an awful lot of stuff that I find appealing! I’m truly excited at this opportunity. It has nothing to do with the hype - the guys that are doing this are th ereal deal!
WEX said: “From my perspective - all that is unfolding seems fairly intentional. The secret meeting, the number of guru’s, the method by which information is being disseminated, and the higher than the $89/program ‘market price’. Brilliant!”
YES! It is INTENTIONAL - and that’s what pisses off a lot of people I think. The fact that Brad Fallon pulled off a GIGANTIC product release that dominated the internet for a few weeks (has it been that long???) is rubbing some people the wrong way.
I think it has a lot to do with a small minority of people who resent that other people are making money. Some people get offended by that. I’m not sure why. My audience - the one that visits my sites WNAT TO MAKE MONEY - they are here to learn how to make money - so they SHOULD NOT be offended that Brad is making bucks off this - that Aymen is selling tons of units - or that affiliates are getting paid commissions. There should NOT be anything wrong with that.
Now, that said - I do agree that some people are FAKE and hyping it to make money - that may be true - and that is exactly why I am asking people to look beyond that. Don’t judge the value based on people PROMOTING the product. Find out what they give you if you buy it and decide if it is worth the investment.
I did that and I bought it because the product looks it will give me a ton of value over the 12 weeks of training!
It’s too bad. There is more than enough to go around for all of us - than to be wishing others would be miserable too…
WEX said: “While the concept of arbitrage is not something that’s new or novel, it appears that Aymen’s application of arbitrage has yielded success. $100,000 a day is unheard of by most - and yet, we doubt that number based on our own programs and goals without regard to what’s involved to get there. YES - THERE IS RISK. YES - it takes an investment of money beyond the cost of the program - there are no surprises here folks. It’s easy to jump to conclusions and dangerous when done so without facts. When all is said and done, I recognize that this program is going to require dedication. You need to commit to learning what will be taught. You need to commit to execute the program strategies. And you need to commit to maintaining the program that you setup. If you have a problem with commitment or you are too diversified with other programs, you will not succeed. Bottom line - keep an open mind. That’s when the seeds of opportunity will sprout and bear fruit!”
Right. The guy is a winner and he is doing something right OTHERWISE how do you explain his success??? Anyone that can make 100,000 a day gets my attention! I want to learn formsomeone with this level of success!
You also hit the nail on the head by saying that committment is required to pull off a high level of success doing what Aymen does. It requires work and dedication! That alone will scare off some people. Not everyone wants to work hard to make their million! They’d rather have the work done for them or win it in a lottery :’>
I agree - keep an open mind!
Comment by mike — December 15, 2008 @ 10:09 pm
Mike … don’t keep having a stroke because some people with impeccable reputations said AC is just the same old CPA stuff that they could not hype & promote. It was Dan Theis who pointed out the extra commissions for video testimonials - and there were many marketers at the Vegas Event who ethically could not endorse or promote this course to their list. Is it a secret that some are just the same whores that pop up on every sales page that comes out of their JV circle? Look at the list. It’s hilarious.
“Again” - I’ve stipulated to the fact that AC “might” be a good course. The only argument I’m making is the FACT that 2 different opinions came out of the Event. You’ve made your point; those opinions are useless to you - but they happen to be meaningful to others BEFORE they fork over $2,000. Instead of, as you say while selling AC: “buy it and decide if it is worth the investment.”
Comment by Jerry — December 16, 2008 @ 2:16 am
There is one thing that’s unusual about this product - when you buy it you are not immediately presented with an upsell. That was very refreshing to see these days and probably says a lot about their intentions to deliver a genuine product and not just try and get as much money out of the sales process as possible. Hats off to them.
Comment by Steve O'Connor — December 16, 2008 @ 4:37 am
Very interesting arguments going on here! For my 2 cents, l would not buy it because l just don’t have the time to spend on it. l would prefer to go down the same route as l am at the moment i.e getting relevant and high pr backlinks and adding content, as often as possible. That takes me all my time. All these offers are just distractions. Even this forum discussion is a distraction from the time you could spend on getting links and putting content up.
Mike, one of the offers you recently emailed contained about $10,000 in freebies etc at some incredibly cheap price. However, the amount of software was huge. All very useful and great value, but again, only more distraction. It would take me days to wade through that lot.
Only spend your time on doing the stuff that brings you closer to the money, which is a bit of a mantra for me
Anyway, i’m glad Mike paid $2000 for the course. Maybe he’ll dispense some knowledge from what he has learned that can help us all prosper.
Comment by Sparks — December 16, 2008 @ 6:43 am
Hi Mike James here
Just wanted to say I got a email from Brad.
Well I took a look at the program, I knew after I read it, that
this was not your every day program.
Now Brad has put out some very good products and yes I own and
subscribe to one of his program,s
I also know that if he says something good about something and
That I should take a look at something then I do.
Now if you take a look at his SEO TOOL and video,s he has the num# 1 ranking in google for Yrs. Why would I distrust him.
Folks need to understand something: Be real with yourself,
If you are makeing that kind of $$$ Per day and all of a sudden
You decide you want to share this knowledge with the masses
You know DAMM well you an’t about to charge a mere pendence for This knowledge! Yes Aymen and his team are making hand over fist in $$$$ and he should charge what he is charging
I say FOLKS if YOU cant pay the fee then this an’t for you.
And take the sheet off your face folks cause it’s a brand new day! So Get out way and let the MAN do his THANG!!!!
Comment by James — December 16, 2008 @ 7:45 am
Is there a 100% money back guarantee on this training.
Comment by Estelle — December 16, 2008 @ 9:43 am
Mike said “I’d offer some advice to you Estelle, and try to help you, but I have a feeling you would not be interested in any advice I would give you.”
Wrong again, I would be very much interested in any advice from anyone that would result is $$$$$$ in my bank account. But so far, I have been on the other end of that equation, I have been spending out huge amounts of $$$$$$$$ without any return. So if you can help me, please do.
Comment by Estelle — December 16, 2008 @ 10:32 am
I guess this lively debate has a two-fold function, increasing the page rank of this blog and providing a sounding board for various opinions on the “Arbitrage Conspiracy”.
Good going Mike!
Comment by Estelle — December 16, 2008 @ 11:10 am
Hi Mike
Great content here! I love what you have going on. I will link you back to my blog at http://www.danbriffa.com so my readers can come and see what great content you got here. Im sure it will come in handy!
Thanks Mike, keep up the great work!
Dan
Comment by Dan Briffa — December 18, 2008 @ 6:29 pm
Thanks for all the comments!
Comment by mike — December 22, 2008 @ 2:30 pm
The training starts on January 5th, 2009 but they had a quickstart webinar last Friday. It was very informative. They went over what will be trained for the 12 weeks and it looks very exciting. The guys are very knowledgeable and so far it is a class act. They added a 13th week of training as a bonus. Also - there is some misinformation about the guarantee going around - they have 2 guarantees - one is a 30 days no questions asked refund policy and the other involves taking the course for full and doing ceratin things to get full refund plus $500. extra. So they have 2 guarantees. One for those who don’t like what they find after buying and inspecting for 30 days - and 1 for those who tried and failed.
Comment by mike — December 22, 2008 @ 2:33 pm
Well, that guarantee is as good as it gets. But I suspect those that try and fail will still come away with some knowledge that they did not have originally and that they will benefit from this newly acquired knowledge some time in the future.
Comment by Estelle — December 30, 2008 @ 3:07 pm
After seeing what they’ll be teaching - I can’t imagine how anyone could not walk away with knowledge to help mak emore money. I’ve already discvered some new ideas that will make me money. What’s critical is APPLYING what is learned. The 80/20 rule applies here as well - so a lot of folks who have PAID may not do anything with the info OR mau not even attend classes or use the training. That’s just the way it is - most people don’t follow through and take action. They get distracted by things that don’t produce results… ithappens to me too - I’m not immune - I’m just saying that the best training in the world will be worthless if the techniques are not applied :’>
As Tony says:
“Most people fail in life because they major in minor things. Success is simple, but it does require certain consistent things each day.”
- Anthony Robbins
Comment by Mike — December 30, 2008 @ 3:19 pm